Comments on: How Internet copyright law is abused http://groupblog.workasone.net/archives/00154.html Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:22:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: David Brake http://groupblog.workasone.net/archives/00154.html#comment-2053 David Brake Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:35:37 +0000 http://groupblog.workasone.net/archives/2005/11/how-internet-copyright-law-is-abused/#comment-2053 A prompt and quite reassuring reply! From reading the report I would say the folks at Chilling Effects have gone a long way to reassure skeptical readers and are gathering quite a good data set - one that is getting better all the time. And one that is telling quite a depressing story about stifling free speech. I would like to have stats on what effect it is actually having - how many of the "dubious" notices are actually complied with rather than contested by Google or other ISPs. Doubtless these stats will be coming in future reports. A prompt and quite reassuring reply! From reading the report I would say the folks at Chilling Effects have gone a long way to reassure skeptical readers and are gathering quite a good data set - one that is getting better all the time. And one that is telling quite a depressing story about stifling free speech. I would like to have stats on what effect it is actually having - how many of the “dubious” notices are actually complied with rather than contested by Google or other ISPs. Doubtless these stats will be coming in future reports.

]]> By: Jennifer Urban http://groupblog.workasone.net/archives/00154.html#comment-2052 Jennifer Urban Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:16:07 +0000 http://groupblog.workasone.net/archives/2005/11/how-internet-copyright-law-is-abused/#comment-2052 Actually, the study is available here: http://mylaw.usc.edu/documents/512Rep/ Also, thanks, David for the comment. The data are not perfect (this is a private process, so very hard to get data--one more reason for concern), but they are better than you might expect. This is because Google sends all its notices--good, bad and in-between--to Chilling Effects. The vast majority of the notices we studied are from Google. While this has its own problems (Google is only one company, 2/3 of notices from it are related to search, etc), it is a complete picture of Googles intereaction with DMCA 512. We were careful with the self-reported notices, which I agree are likely to be sent by people who at least _think_ they're in the right. However, the 30% number was true both for those self-reported notices, and for Google separately (when all self-reported notices were removed). Actually, the study is available here: http://mylaw.usc.edu/documents/512Rep/

Also, thanks, David for the comment. The data are not perfect (this is a private process, so very hard to get data–one more reason for concern), but they are better than you might expect. This is because Google sends all its notices–good, bad and in-between–to Chilling Effects. The vast majority of the notices we studied are from Google. While this has its own problems (Google is only one company, 2/3 of notices from it are related to search, etc), it is a complete picture of Googles intereaction with DMCA 512. We were careful with the self-reported notices, which I agree are likely to be sent by people who at least _think_ they’re in the right. However, the 30% number was true both for those self-reported notices, and for Google separately (when all self-reported notices were removed).

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